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“If The Church Lights Are On – The Lost Will Come! (Today – I Think Not!)”

Copied from the article by Maynard H. Belt from barnabasfile.com

Some of the older saints of our congregations will recognize these words, “If the church lights are on – the lost will come!” Actually, there was an era in which this was true. At the turn of the last century, there were many who made their way to the House of the Lord because there were not all of the other attractions of the world, and they often sought refuge in a place that could give them solace and peace. Have we not heard of the wanderer passing the church at night, seeing the lights, hearing the singing, and going inside to see what was happening?

One of the churches that I pastored was founded during the great depression. It began with a series of evangelistic meetings, from which came the first members. Their very first pastor was the evangelist who conducted those meetings thus the church continued to grow as people came to hear the gospel preached. By the end of its fourth year as a local church, membership had burgeoned to over 500 and was steadily increasing. During that year the Tabernacle that they had built, collapsed due to heavy snow on the roof, and two days later what remained of the broken structure burned. $2700 in debt in the midst of the depression, the flock decided to trust God and build again, and build they did, putting up a new Tabernacle that had a seating capacity of 3000! God honored their faith – they continued to grow and I have pictures of some 2000 people, on Sunday evenings, which were the evangelistic hour in that day, gathering to hear the gospel proclaimed. I know for sure in those days that they had a bus ministry, radio ministry and other outreaches but it was also a day when people came on their own, many by foot, just to see what was going on and went home “saved!”

Well, today unbelievers are not flocking to church just because the lights are on. For some churches, it is difficult enough just to get the believers there! As a result, we are living in a culture where the modern church is “marketing” itself in order to lure the lost. Are we attempting to “draw” them in by means of enticing techniques, or are we going to where they are through aggressive measures of loving kindness? The church must get out of the fortress, in obedience to Christ’s command in the great commission, but carefully analyzing our motives and methods as we do. If we market ourselves only to charm a lost society to “come and see” and amuse them in a way in which they are already accustomed, then we are not following the biblical pattern. John MacArthur in his book, Reckless Faith, states, “Many Christians have the misconception that to win the world to Christ we must first win the world’s favor. If we can get the world to like us, they will embrace our Savior.” An important question we must ask is, “Are our methods that we are using today pragmatic or biblical?” The church’s basic objective is evangelism, edification, worship and instruction. Evangelism is the weak link. Though I am greatly encouraged by the increased efforts regarding various aspects of evangelization that I am seeing, we still can improve in reaching out to our communities with the glorious claims of Christ and how He can fulfil their every need, beginning with that of the forgiveness of sins.

We also need to be reminded that we cannot confuse church growth with effective church evangelism. Many churches grow today by “collection” rather than “conversion.” Local church evangelism is a work of God in which he uses the members to take His word to people in whom the Holy Spirit works to bring them to the place of trusting in Christ as their Lord and Savior. It is also providing the means, whether it be financial assistance as with the supporting of missionaries, or providing instruction of members in order to be a witness for the cause of Christ. It is very clear that the early church was a training center whereby some were sent out into the culture of their day with a clear cut message of redemption (Acts 13:3; 15:30ff; 18:23). God always uses people in evangelism, and there are so many ways in which we can make ourselves more available, but we must “go,” for they will not come just because the church lights are on. As we spread the gospel, the Holy Spirit will spread salvation. As a dear pastor friend of mine once said, “They will not seek, they must be sought, they will not come they must be brought, the will not learn, they must be taught!

The dynamic of evangelism has been placed in the confidence of the church, not to be kept to itself, but delivered by sundry sources to a lost and dying world. Each local church must select the evangelistic strategies that are most suitable and effective in the context of their community. The heart of evangelism is the gospel and the gospel is a dynamic for, as Paul said in Romans 1:16, “I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ for it is the power of God….” A bookbinder once put T.N.T. on the spine of His New Testament, for that is really what the gospel is – the dynamite of God. We but must proclaim it and share it. The Great Commission is a gigantic mission. The “GO” is the imperative of the mission; the “YE” is the instrument through which the mission is accomplished; the “ALL NATIONS” is the inclusiveness of the mission; and the “LO, I AM WITH YOU ALWAYS” is the inspiration for making the mission a reality (Matt. 28:19-20).

When John Wesley wrote, “A charge to keep I have, a God to glorify; a never dying soul to save, and fit it for the sky,” his burden was for the church to evangelize. Evangelism will test the purpose, the programs, the power and the performance of the church. It is very important to keep the church lights on, but it is also vital to carry the Light to the lost.

Give us a watchword for the hour, a thrilling word, a word of power,

A battle cry, a flaming breath, a call to conquest or to death,

A word to rouse the church from rest, to heed the Master’s high behest!

The Word is given, you host arise! The watchword is….evangelize!

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Evangelism in the Normal Church

A few Sunday’s ago I attended a large church and listened to an excellent and challenging message calling the people to be ready to ‘seize the moment’ and be prepared to share the gospel when the Lord brings the opportunity.  I loved the sermon!  But the conclusion actually frustrated me.  The pastor said, “are you prepared to move a person from Twilight the movie to Jesus the Savior?”  He also said, “Are you prepared to take a person from where they are into an understanding that Jesus loves them and wants to be their Savior?”  The problem (what literally upset me) was that the pastor had the people saying “no” in their hearts – they aren’t prepared but want to be . . . and he did not give an opportunity during his conclusion for people to say, ‘help me pastor!’  ‘Train me, pastor!’  ‘Coach me, pastor!’ 

 This was a fabulous opportunity for this church to collect literally hundreds of names and email address’s/phone #’s of people who would like to be coached so they COULD BE PREPARED!!!  In fact, my friend Jim Quayle, and I overheard the man sitting directly behind us ask the person next to him how he could prepare himself!  I went away from this service more passionate than ever about the calling God has given me!

The responsibility of the pastor and church leadership is to encourage, equip, train, motivate, bless and even anoint every believer in the church to go to their own ‘congregations’ (workplace, neighborhood, school, family, friendship group) with the message of the gospel.  The church must build up the people’s confidence in their specific ‘missional-living’ ministry by teaching and coaching them: to know the Bible verses to use while sharing God’s plan of salvation; to know how to share their own salvation testimony with passion; to learn the major part the Holy Spirit plays in giving courage and success in witnessing; to learn special witnessing tools that will enable them to be focused and confident; to understand the power of praying for the lost and covering each day with prayer.

Just because your people don’t like to ‘evangelize’ doesn’t mean they can’t share their faith. Do you have any thoughts about what I have written?  Let’s have a discussion.

Welcome to our new ‘home’!

It’s exciting to FINALLY have an official web site!  Thanks to our son, Paul, we now have the ‘home base of this ministry. Thank you for your patience as we build this site into an effective tool to communicate what the Lord is doing:  coaching pastors and churches; training followers of Jesus Christ in “Missional Living”; connecting with local church pastors, leadership teams and ‘lay-ministers’; fulfilling our calling and giftedness of ‘evangelist’.

Check out the December Newsletter for more detailed information.

Ken & Diane Ramey

EvangeCoach  Coaching Churches to Excel in Evangelism”
14400 SE 270th Pl     
Kent, WA 98042
phone  (425) 495-3723

Update #15 August 25, 2009

This might be the most important Update I have sent out. Please read it all and allow God’s Spirit to bless and minister to you.

I want to begin by expressing our deep appreciation for so many emails of love and encouragement! Your expressions of support and prayer touched our hearts! Thank you!

Thank you for praying for Diane. We are on a journey regarding her health. The tests indicated that she has a definite slowing in the abdominal tract and will need continued care and treatment. She is, as always, living each day to the fullest and being the best wife, grandmother, friend and helper possible – and doing a great job! Please continue to pray for her as the Lord brings her to your heart and mind.

Now – the Lord has laid a “Message” on my heart. I pay attention to what is happening in our country and in the church. Obviously, there is much to be concerned about. There are lots of words here, and it is worth the time for you to read and consider . . .

What is the answer? What is God’s answer?

We are watching our country in decline . . .

We have forsaken God. This nation had a special covenant with God from its founding. Our national motto is “In God We Trust.” We used to sing “God Bless America”, and He did. We used to pray in schools. We used to advocate, “Attend the Church of your choice.” We used to close our businesses on Sunday. We still pledge allegiance to one nation, under God. But for most Americans we honor God with our lips, but not with our hearts. Our pulpits were once aflame with righteousness, according to Alexis De Toqueville. America was once great because she was good, but she has ceased to be good, and we are no longer great. Our President has declared we are no longer a Christian nation. He does not attend the National Prayer Breakfast. After two hundred years to the contrary, our Supreme Court has told us God is no longer officially welcome in America, that we cannot not acknowledge Him officially, even though each is free to worship Him as they please. Our Supreme Court removed the Bible, the Ten Commandments (the moral code and basis of Western civilization and Judeo-Christian law), and prayer from public schools, contrary to the will of the majority of Americans. But we have done nothing to restore it. We have acquiesced. We are guilty. What happens to a nation that abandons God? The Bible is very clear on this point. “If you forsake the LORD and serve foreign gods, then He will turn and do you harm and consume you after He has done good to you.” Joshua 24:20 The hand of our God is favorably disposed to all those who seek Him, but His power and His anger are against all those who forsake Him.” Ezra 8:22 (This is taken from an article written by Allan Parker. If you would like to see the entire “Warning, Disaster is Coming” I would be happy to forward it to you.)

What is the answer? What is God’s answer?

We are watching our churches in decline . . .

Recent trends over the past 40 years indicate that Americans are becoming less interested in what the Christian church has to offer. From 1986-1996 the US population increased 11.4% (24,153,000) yet the combined membership of Protestant denominations decreased by 9.5% (4,498,242).• Not a single county in America has a greater percentage of “churched persons” than 10 years ago!• In 1900 – 27 churches for every 10,000 Americans.• In 1950 – 17 churches for every 10,000 Americans.• In 1996 – Less than 11 churches for every 10,000 Americans. • Approximately 4,000 churches close their doors every year while only 1,500 new churches are opened!• Percentage of people attending church in the US decreased 12% in the years from 1991 to 1996 – (49% to 37%)
Bible believing churches must do something and quick! If these trends continue, who is to say that in 100 years the churches of America won’t become like the churches of modern Western Europe – museums. (This information is copied from an article written by Backpack Truth Ministries. If you want to see the entire article that has many more documented facts, I’ll be happy to send it to you.)


What is the answer? What is God’s answer?

Is God’s #1 answer for Christ-followers to become passionate about standing up for our conservative Christian values as a nation and fight against the political left that is taking our country away from the constitution and the Judeo-Christian roots of America?

Though the above is good – it is not God’s #1 answer!

Is God’s #1 answer for church growth instead of church decline to become more and more like the modern culture in it’s attempt to gain attendees? Is the answer for the church to spend thousands of dollars each week on the ‘production’ so the attendees will ‘love’ the service and come back? Is the answer for the church to have newer, more high-tech auditoriums that feed the needs of the younger attendees and keep them coming?

Though the above might be ok – it is certainly not God’s #1 answer! What God wants . . . is for His Gospel to be preached, both in the church buildings and outside the church building. JESUS is the answer!!! People being rescued from their lost condition and discipled according to the terms of Matthew 28:19, 20 is the mission of the church. The greatest need that all people have, because they are under God’s wrath against sin, is for the blood atonement that only Jesus Christ provides. This comes from the preaching of the Gospel. But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes upon you. And you will be my witnesses, telling people about me everywhere—in Jerusalem, throughout Judea, in Samaria, and to the ends of the earth. Acts 1:8 How then will they call on Him in whom they have not believed? How will they believe in Him whom they have not heard? And how will they hear without a preacher? Romans 10:14 Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come! All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation: that God was reconciling the world to himself in Christ, not counting men’s sins against them. And he has committed to us the message of reconciliation. We are therefore Christ’s ambassadors, as though God were making his appeal through us. We implore you on Christ’s behalf: Be reconciled to God. 2 Corinthians 5:17-20

A personal word . . . my passion

I see in the gospel of Jesus Christ the good news of the Son of God, the truth of God. Only Christ can meet the perfect law. Only Christ can satisfy the justice of God. Only Christ can open the way for us into the holiest of all, into the presence of the Father. Only Christ can supply the need of the bankrupt sinner, and only Christ can keep me from falling. “Now unto him who is able to keep you from falling, and who is able to present you faultless before the throne and the presence of his glory with exceeding joy; to him be glory both now and forever.” That’s why it’s necessary for me to preach (to speak or share) the gospel: the beauty of it, the glory of it, the truth of it. I could tell you that salvation is in the church, but it wouldn’t be true. I could tell you to come forward after I preach and shake my hand and God would take you to heaven, but it would be a lie. I could tell you, ‘let me baptize you,’ and by obeying the baptismal commandment you will go to heaven, but it wouldn’t be so. I could tell you that if you live a good life and pray and go to church on Sunday and give a little offering, God will take you to heaven when you die, but it wouldn’t be so. I could tell you to quit drinking, quit lying and cheating and live a good, moral life and you will go to heaven when you die, but that would be a lie — it wouldn’t be so. But when I tell you that Christ died for our sins; that Christ is a sufficient Savior; that Christ is an effectual substitute who came down here and gave us a righteousness which we didn’t have and couldn’t produce, went to the cross, bore our sins, paid our debt, satisfied the justice of God; that he is our living advocate at the right hand of the Father; and that if you come to a living, vital union with him, you’ll be saved — that’s the truth, and the only truth that will make you free. It’s only Jesus that can save our country! Jesus and His gospel is the only message our church should be preaching! It’s the only way to have real church growth! Jesus is the answer! We are all ‘preachers’ & ‘evangelists’ and ‘tellers’ of the gospel! We all must “get all excited & go tell everybody that Jesus Christ is King!”

Romans 10:9-13 Let me now remind you, dear brothers and sisters, of the Good News (The Gospel) I preached to you . . . Christ died for our sins, just as the Scriptures said. He was buried, and he was raised from the dead on the third day, just as the Scriptures said . . . if you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. As the Scripture says, “Anyone who trusts in him will never be put to shame.” For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

Do you sense the Holy Spirit giving agreement to all the above? Does your spirit bear witness that what I have written and what we are doing is right?

Will you help us call the church back to the ministry of evangelism? Will you join us in lifting up the gospel of Jesus Christ (ministry of evangelism) in the church and outside the church (missional living) to it’s proper value?

This is good!!! Let the Lord bless and challenge you with this youtube.com video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZiMlwXU6fQ&feature=player_embedded

May God bless you as you seek to be more like Him every day!

O Lord, Glorify Yourself at Our Expense!

Evangelist Ken & Diane Ramey

Home address:
14400 SE 270th Pl
Kent, WA 98042 Phone: 425-495-3723

Ken & Diane Ramey’s Ministry Update #13

Psalm 32:8 “The LORD says, ‘I will guide you along the best pathway for your life. I will advise you and watch over you’.”

Beloved,
Today, and this week, we are passionately seeking the face of God in extended times of prayer, reading & meditating on the Word and listening to the Holy Spirit’s counsel as we find ourselves at a major crossroad in our life and ministry. Pray with us. Listen to the Lord. Bask in the undying love, grace and mercy of our God! We appreciate you!

As a part of my prayer time, I love to read the written prayers of others. There are entire books of written prayers that are deep and powerful! The following is a compilation of some prayers that have been specifically meaningful to me today. Diane & I prayed this prayer while on our knees today.

“Our Father in Heaven . . . Lord God Almighty!

We know that You are Jesus, and that You died for us. We know that you rose again, live inside us, and have given us the promise of eternal life, as we are your children. We praise Your Holy Name today! We thank you for all you are and all you have done for us.Control us today by Your Holy Spirit. Let Your Holy Spirit Testify through us and speak the Truth through us. Let Your Holy Spirit Love through us- a perfect unselfish Holy Love; so that we lay down all worldly ambitions, give up our wills, and do Your Holy Will.

Take our thoughts away from making money, or finding security and success in this world. Take our desire away from seeking worldly wealth or fame. Take our eyes away from looking on vain worldly appearances, which deceive and mislead us. Keep our thoughts on doing Your Holy will, not on seeking worldly material things, or vain worldly status. Let Your Holy Spirit give us our ONE desire and ONE purpose. To do Your Will. If You desire us to walk paths of poverty, then so be it. If You desire us to lose everything, that we think is important or valuable, then so be it. If You desire us to sacrifice everything we have and our lives, then so be it. If You desire us to endure pain and seasons of harsh conditions, then so be it. If You desire us to live or die, then so be it.

Let Your Holy Will be done in our lives. For, even our lives are not our own. We owe everything to You. Keep us from looking in the mirror and admiring our own beauty, which is not beauty at all. Let the True Beauty be in us- Your Holy Spirit of Truth and Grace. Keep us from pride and love of self, which is our enemy.

Bless us with absolute, total, unselfish Love – which is only possible through Your Holy Spirit. We give You our lives. Do with us as You Will. Make our lives useful to Your Service. The only ambition we have is to humbly, and honestly do Your Will. We want to lift up Your Name Jesus, not our names. We want to make known the power of Your Holy Spirit, Jesus. We want You to claim us for Yourself, and use us according to Your Divine purpose.

We are convinced that You have given us a Mission – thank You for your call on our lives. But, no matter the job or task that You assign to us, we will be contented, and full of Joy, to do Your Holy Will, Lord Jesus.

Let Your Holy Spirit’s POWER be alive in us forever, and give us, and continue to give us, Purpose, Hope, and Peace and Joy. For without You, we perish.

Lord, we give up all our own plans and purposes, all our own desires and hopes, and we accept Your will for our life. We give ourselves, our life, our all, unreservedly to be Yours forever. Fill us with Your Holy Spirit. Use us, O Lord, we pray; send us where You want. Work out Your whole will in our life at any cost, now and forever.In the precious name of Jesus, we Pray! Amen & Amen”

The LORD bless you and keep you; the LORD make his face shine upon you and be gracious to you; the LORD turn his face toward you and give you peace.” Numbers 6:24-26

Evangelist Ken & Diane Ramey

Home address:
14400 SE 270th Pl
Kent, WA 98042
Phone: 425-495-3723

Ken & Diane Ramey’s Ministry Update #11

The Real Career “Making His Mission Your Mission”
. . . from the hearts of Ken & Diane Ramey

Update #11 Monday, July 13, 2009

Each Monday I try to catch you up on what is happening in our lives. Try to read it all! Feel free to respond back! Give input! Ask questions! Grab a cup of coffee and catch up on what God is doing in and through us! (A note from Diane: “We sure do love it when we hear from you!) BTW – Diane wrote a very special “Diane’s Doodlings” near the end of this Update and there is a very special letter from the Luis Palau NGA Association.

“I can’t impress this on you too strongly. God is looking over your shoulder. Christ himself is the Judge, with the final say on everyone, living and dead. He is about to break into the open with his rule, so proclaim the Message with intensity; keep on your watch. Challenge, warn, and urge your people. Don’t ever quit. Just keep it simple. You’re going to find that there will be times when people will have no stomach for solid teaching, but will fill up on spiritual junk food—catchy opinions that tickle their fancy. They’ll turn their backs on truth and chase mirages. But you—keep your eye on what you’re doing; accept the hard times along with the good; keep the Message alive; do a thorough job as God’s servant.”
2 Timothy 4:5 THE MESSAGE

We had the joy on Sunday to present our ministry to the congregation of New Life Community Church of Lake Tapps, WA. This is a wonderful group of people led by a true ‘Missional Living” Pastor, Bill Austel, and his precious wife, Heidi. They were “kids” in our youth group in the late 1970’s & early 80’s at Temple Baptist Church in Tacoma, were I was their Word of Life Representative and then their youth pastor. Truly, it is such a joy to be privileged to see ‘your spiritual kids’ grow up to be serving the Lord! I received the following letter from Pastor Bill Austel on Monday, July 13th . . .

“Ken,
Thank you so much for your ministry to us yesterday! It was clear to me that our people were riveted by your testimony and your passion for ministry. I can’t thank you enough for sharing your testimony of God’s grace and mercy in your life and the way you have chosen to use it for His glory.
The universal message that God would take any one of our lives and, by His grace and mercy, make something of it that He would delight to use for His glory is one that simply must be heard.
Through the course of the day, from our time of worship together to your sharing to the fellowship afterwards, it was clear to see that the people of NLCC have endeared themselves to you and Diane. Thank you for giving our little church the opportunity to share this exciting journey with you and for allowing us to pray over you and the ministry to which God has called you. Serving the King together, Bill ” (Pastor Bill Austel)

Each week, the Lord, through His Word, prayer and the inner ministry of the Holy Spirit, the counsel and encouragement of others, articles and books and ministry opportunities, confirms and renews our passion to the mission and vision to which He had led us! Praise the Lord!!!

“Then I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, ‘Whom shall I send, and who will go for Us?’ Then I said, ‘Here am I. Send me!'” – Isaiah 6:8, NASB

My prayerfor us all: “Gracious God, our Heavenly Father, we praise You for the great love that You have shown to us through the redeeming death and triumphant resurrection of Your Son, our Lord Jesus Christ. We pray that You would enable us by the power of Your Holy Spirit to proclaim faithfully the Good News of Your Kingdom and Your Love. Forgive us for failing to take the Gospel to our family, neighbors, co-workers, friends, all we come in contact with and all the peoples of the world. Deliver us from ignorance, error, lovelessness, judgment, pride, selfishness, impurity, and cowardice. Enable us to be loving, truthful, kind, humble, sympathetic, pure, and courageous. Salvation belongs to You, O God, Who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb. We ask You to make our Gospel witness effective. Anoint our proclamation with the Holy Spirit; use it to gather all that You already know who will one day stand before You and the Lamb giving praise. This we ask by the merits of our Lord Jesus Christ. Amen.”

An email that came today in response to yesterday’s ministry at New Life Community Church: “Hi Ken, I wanted to let you know I was able to relate part of your sermon today to one of (my daughters’) teachers regarding our plan vs God’s path. I also really appreciated your open and very honest testimony. I applaud your courage and I know God will use your willingness to be transparent in a way that is amazing. I would still like to sit down with you sometime this week and talk about a few things that are on my mind. Hope you have a great day! John

Just this afternoon Diane ran upstairs to my office where I was ‘cleaning up’ J and said I needed to immediately read an article she had just received as a forward from our dear friend and mentor, Anneli Dietz. I did, and it was a challenge and a blessing: “THE BAIT” by Craig Kinsley. The point of the 6-page article was this … What bait are we using? “What is or is not drawing people to our message of salvation? What bait should we be using? The answer is both quite simple and yet eternally complicated. Love is the answer. Not a manmade love, but Divine Love. A Love that should be pursued because it is not natural. A Love that Jesus displayed in such a way that the hardest of hearts could be turned to Home. A Love that was demonstrated through a variety of miracles, signs and wonders. A Love that broke circumstances and excavated the Divine purpose buried deep within the human heart. Simply showing someone their sin doesn’t change them. Showing them the way of Love and Life will change the world.” If you would like me to forward the entire article, please reply and I’m happy to!

Leonard Ravenhill made this plea many years ago . . . “The attitude of the average Christian today is relax and be raptured. But He (Jesus) is coming… and when God gets angry you’ve no idea what it is. Like a thousand volcanoes exploding. He has appointed a day in which He is going to judge the world and the poor blind world doesn’t know much about it and the poor blind church doesn’t think much about it now.”

I came upon a wonderful website with it’s motto, “To inspire in every Christian a God-glorifying passion to fulfill the great commission.” http://www.livingwaters.com/ This site is filled with lots of excellent information and passion, but I would like you to watch the “Weekly Witnessing” clip (2nd one down) and let me know any thoughts you might have. At this time in my evangelistic journey, I struggle with this kind of witnessing. There are a few words the ‘victim’ said that, I believe, might show us why a ‘missional living’ lifestyle could be the best way to win people to Christ.

Diane’s Doodlings – – –
We think it is important for you to hear from me each update as well. One of the questions I get a lot is, “How are you, Diane, in all of this?” People want to know how I am feeling about living by faith, how I am about a possible necessary move, is my faith being tested, and what I REALLY think about this new vision/ministry that Maverick Evangelist Ken Ramey is embarking on. In case any of you want to know the answer to any of those questions….here it is! How am I? I am THRILLED beyond any words I can express of watching my husband come back to life and us being back about The Father’s Business! The stage is set…we are on the brink of eternity….there is nothing else either of us desire other than obeying The Master and His Call on our lives. He called us out when we were newlyweds to be employed by Him full time. We have had some HUGE bumps on our 40 year journey together….some daunting negative schooling straight from the Father’s Hands…requiring us to be put on the shelf for a time. We embrace those “bumps” that satan meant for evil….but God meant for our good! Hallelujah! We praise Him for every jolt…each one had a purpose! Independently, I was praying that the Lord would reveal to Ken when it was time to jump off that shelf. There were times we thought that moment might never arrive again in our lives. But there was a confidence buried deep within me that believed He was NOT done with us in His Service….but it was more important that Ken believed that. So I prayed earnestly for a year, not sharing my prayer with Ken. Then one day, while Ken was working, he txt me saying God was speaking to Him….and I replied…”Are you listening?” and he answered, “YES!” I knew then that God was beginning to answer my prayer. Wow! What a vision God implanted in Ken! Could it be more timely, considering where we find our world today? All I can do is marvel at His Great Love and be so very grateful that He bent His Ear to my prayer and gave me audience. How He accomplishes His Purpose through us via this new ministry and passion He has laid on my husband’s heart is not my business. It is the Lord’s! My job is to support Ken, knowing with every fiber of my being, this new vision/ministry that He is setting out before us, is clearly His “orders” (job) for us and we cannot….MUST NOT….do anything less but follow His Leading. Oh sure! I am human! I have A LOT of questions, musings, worries, fears and wonderings. But at the same time, I have such peace, joy and contentment that passes all understanding, that we ARE in the Center of His Will…..and we don’t want to be anywhere else! We don’t dare! The question about “living by faith” is not a new term for us. We have been doing that most of our married lives, really! So….when my faith is weak, God allows me to watch as He honors my husbands STRONG faith in God’s Provision for us….and I find myself, it seems, continually asking God to forgive me again for my doubting Him! Yes…my faith gets stretched and at times I feel tested….I ask “what about the bills, Lord?”….. asking the Lord…..”What? Are you really going to make this 60 year old couple move AGAIN?”…..but none of those earthly questions diminish the Peace He has given me to support my husband in being obedient to His Call….with my whole heart….I am there! I don’t need to know the why’s, and how’s and wherefore’s. God will do it! Some of His Provision will be through His People….because I believe God still moves in the hearts of His People. Some will be miraculous gifts from where….we know not! There will be lean times…..and doing without. We are acquainted with that. Some times we will viewed as “worthy of our hire”. The earthly circumstance does not alter our Heavenly Call. So will you please pray for us that as we seek Him with our whole hearts and follow His Call, and as we fight like the rest of you against the spiritual principalities of the air, please pray that we will remain strong in The Lord and that He will bless our endeavors to restore, in these (surely) last days, evangelism in our churches and abroad.
Opps! I was asked to be pithy! I guess I am not good at being pithy. Ken knew that! I am wondering why he asked me to try and do that! J I know! To keep you all from eye strain! Too late, I know! J I hope that clears up for all who are wondering how I am “feeling” about this new venture in our lives. We both feel like we had at least one more great adventure in us….He surely called us….so we can be confident….HE WILL TAKE GOOD CARE OF US! He always has! Until next time…..May Jesus Christ Be Praised. Hey! We are praying for you! Believe it!
Always Looking Up…..Diane

A Letter from “NGA” – Luis Palau’s Next Generation Alliance

Ken,
As Director of the Next Generation Alliance, it has been my privilege to read and evaluate your application for membership with NGA. We want to commend you on your godly character your passion for Christ, and your desire to be a part of a fellowship of Evangelists.
After assessing the information that you have provided regarding your vision for ministry, it is obvious that you have a heart for evangelism. At this time, I would like to extend to you the opportunity to become one of our member evangelists. This position enables you to use our logos and communicate to your constituency that you are a member evangelist with the Luis Palau Association and NGA. As a member, your name/organization will be listed on the NGA website and be linked to your website (if applicable). You will also receive all current information on meetings, conferences and collaborative festivals.
As a member evangelist, we ask that you please comply with the Membership Agreement that you have already read and signed. Also, please feel free to contact us with any questions you many have.
Every blessing to you,

Dr. Tim Robnett Kevin Palau
Director, Next Generation Alliance Executive Vice President, Luis Palau Association

Evangelist Ken & Diane Ramey
Home address:
14400 SE 270th Pl
Kent, WA 98042 Phone: 425-495-3723

Church Service looks like a "Staff Meeting?"

A small vision of what a church service could be –

On early Sunday morning, May 31st, I lay in bed excited to go to church at New Life Community in Lake Tapps for the first time. God gave me a vision of what an exciting church service would be for me. Throughout the many years of pastoral ministry, I have had the joy to attend some fantastic “staff meetings” in many local churches where I served. It was these staff meetings that I looked forward to the most! At a Spirit-led church “staff meeting”, all the elements that should be in the church service, happened:

  • The leader (Sr Pastor) prayed and planned for excellence in each staff meeting
    There was excitement and anticipation of all the staff and most were always early (a leader who is ‘on time’ is LATE!)
  • We started on time (having already had ‘small talk and fellowship in the office before staff meeting) and began with the leader praying for God’s presence and blessing on our time.
  • Then we worshipped – either with a worship pastor leading with his/her guitar or with CD’s on a stereo. The worship is awesome because we are in love with Jesus and love to sing His praises together! Worship clears out the enemy and unifies the worshippers. God is glorified!
  • After worship singing, or during, we shared and prayed for one another. We shared personal burdens, concerns, hopes and dreams. Many times we would all gather around a specific staff member for intense prayer.
  • Then we would move to a challenge from the Word – from the Sr Pastor or from one he asked to share. The message to the staff was always intentional and strong… not just milk.
  • After the Word, we had discussion around the table: each shared what was happening in his/her ministry; each had specific prayer needs in their ministry; many would seek help or counsel about something specific they faced in their ministry.
  • Then prayer happened again – specifically for the ministries!
  • Finally, the leader would bring a challenge focused on the big picture – the Mission of the church and the Vision – how are we doing to accomplish the mission? It was a “get all excited” message and “keep on keeping on” challenge!

EVERYONE always left the staff meeting trained, blessed, encouraged and challenged to be all we could be for God’s glory for the accomplishment of His purpose in our church.

In my vision on that Sunday morning in May, I saw the Sunday church service. If all believers are really ‘ministers’ (staff members), the church service could be seen as a staff meeting! Yes, this would be difficult for large churches, therefore the small groups would be ‘staff meeting’ as the church trains, blesses, encourages and challenges every member to be an effective and successful Christ Follower for the Glory of God and the growth of the local church. I believe this kind of church service would cause every member to feel like an equal staff member – part of the team doing the work of ministry – each in his/her mission field.

To me, this is an exciting vision! I want to see this happen in a church someday!

Following Jesus

Last summer, our precious grand-daughter, Emma, decided to go fishing. She went alone. She tried and tried. She was … patient. She finally used the right bait. Emma caught her first fish – it was little and a ‘throw back’ but her first fish!!! She will never forget it! She was so excited she talked about it for days.
Just last week, Emma caught a 14” trout. We didn’t get a picture but she, once again, was thrilled. The fight was fun and the prize was worth it!!! This is a “Jesus picture” of what He meant to be our life’s-joy . . . following Him and allowing Him to make us “Fisher’s of Men!”

Following Jesus is at the core of Missional Living

“Follow”: to get behind; to get in back of; to be in the same way; going in the same way; signifying a likeness, companion or union.
To follow someone means not taking the initiative, not suggesting a certain path and not challenging the direction you’re going.

1. To follow Jesus means reaching out to people! Matthew 4:19 “Come, follow me,” Jesus said, “and I will make you fishers of men.”

2. To follow Jesus means discarding dead ways. Matthew 8:22 But Jesus told him, “Follow me, and let the dead bury their own dead.”

3. To follow Jesus means not hesitating. Matthew 9:9 As Jesus went on from there, he saw a man named Matthew sitting at the tax collector’s booth. “Follow me,” he told him, and Matthew got up and followed him. John 1:43 The next day Jesus decided to leave for Galilee. Finding Philip, he said to him, “Follow me.”

4. To follow Jesus means to deny yourself. Matthew 16:24 Then Jesus said to his disciples, “If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow me.

5. To follow Jesus means to let go of materialism. Matthew 19:21 Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”

6. To follow Jesus means to listen. John 10:27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me.

7. To follow Jesus means to sacrificially serve Him. John 12:25-26 Whoever serves me must follow me; and where I am, my servant also will be. My Father will honor the one who serves me.
Service means sacrifice!!! By the death of personal desire and personal ambition a man becomes a servant of God. Only by spending your life do you keep it!!

LOYALTY is what Jesus is talking about!!! We have only to think of what this world would have lost if there had not been men prepared to forget their personal safety, security, selfish gain and selfish advancement. The world owes everything to people who recklessly spent their strength and gave themselves to God and to others. No doubt we will exist longer if we take things easily, if we avoid all strain, if we sit at the fire and enjoy life, if we look after ourselves as a hypochondriac looks after his health. No doubt we will exist longer–but we will never live.

Playing it safe is not a part of being a follower! Being a follower is risky business! It means loyal service to our Master no matter what He asks or where He leads!!

8. To follow Jesus means to follow Him without getting distracted by other things or other people! John 21:15-22 Jesus said this to indicate the kind of death by which Peter would glorify God. Then he said to him, “Follow me!” When Peter saw him, he asked, “Lord, what about him?” Jesus answered, “If I want him to remain alive until I return, what is that to you? You must follow me.”

“Being” before “doing” is God’s order in successful Missional Living!

Step #1 in reaching our co-workers, neighbors, friendship groups, fellow-students, etc, with the life-changing gospel of Jesus Christ is simple to say but the challenge-of-a-lifetime for the committed Christ-follower: It’s all about ‘being’ not ‘doing’; it’s being ‘right’ with our Savior one minute at a time; it’s being in fellowship with the Lord all the time; it’s being a man or woman who makes Jesus the Lord each day; it’s being filled with the Holy Spirit; it’s just ‘being’ in the presence of God – walking with God! (1 John 1:5-10)

I must confess that ‘doing’ is much easier than ‘being!’ It takes daily, moment-by-moment discipline to ‘be’ all God wants me to ‘be’ on the inside – and that’s hard! Our battle is against the flesh and against the enemy who does not want us to be in constant relationship with Christ. The devils intent is to destroy that sweet relationship with God through Jesus Christ (John 10:10).

Before we can become a ‘doer of the Word’ we must strive each day just to ‘be a child of God in right relationship with our Heavenly Father ’.

For me, it means starting the day by talking to the Lord in prayer and worship. I use the “Lord’s Prayer” as an outline for my daily prayer and sing songs of worship and praise during my prayer time. This intimate time also includes confession, repentance, and seeking the control of the Holy Spirit.

When I was working at Bellevue Honda, I would use the 35-minute commute to have this special prayer/worship time with the Lord.

Unless we are walking with God in the ‘inner person’ we will not be able to ‘shine for Jesus’ as a missionary at our workplace! Our goal must be that when we walk into the job (school, gym, etc) it is obvious that we have been with Jesus because the ‘shine’ of joy, peace & love’ is all over us! This will draw people to Jesus through us!

I KNOW this is true, because when I fail to discipline myself and ‘be’ the man of God, my attitude and countenance shows it and people say, “What’s the matter with you, Ken?”

My dear friend for 19 years, Jim Quayle, is my living example of ‘being’ before ‘doing!’ His is a true “Missional Liver” and God used him at his workplace for 28 years in the lives of countless men and women! Jim sees the vision and he and his wife, Jan, are faithful team-mates in prayer and financial support.

Honoring my mother . . .

Today, May 4th, is my precious mother’s (Anna Ramey Carpenter) 82nd birthday and this Sunday is Mother’s Day. From childhood my mother has been committed to prayer and reaching the lost. Her father, my grandfather, Ira Myrick, was a ‘crazy’ evangelist. At the end of his life of ministry when he was ‘just to old to get preaching invitations to churches’ he hitch-hiked up and down Highway 101 in California. When he would get a ride, he would bring out his big King James Bible and begin preaching the gospel to everyone in the car! When he couldn’t get rides (because he looked so old) he would bring my grandmother, Carrie, with him because people would feel sorry for her. Grandpa Myrick won many people to Christ in their car – others dropped him off as fast as they could!!! One convert was a California Highway Patrol Officer who picked him up for vagrancy. By the time they arrived at the jail, this CHP officer was born again!

My mom’s 1st husband, my dad, Arthur Ramey, was an evangelist/pastor. While my mom was at BIOLA, ‘preparing to be a missionaries/pastor’s wife’ she ran into this loud man standing on a wooden box and preaching the gospel on the sidewalk of Los Angeles. She eventually married that man. They passionately served the Lord until my dad was taken to glory while preaching the gospel message in his church pulpit in 1980 at the age of only 56.

Mom was married a year-and-a-half later to pastor Bob Carpenter. Together they are faithful in their church and pray every day for the lost in their neighborhood and all over the world. They pray for us every day. Dad Bob and mom are behind our “Missional Living” ministry and believe it is a need in the church today.

I honor the life of my dear mother today. I know she is praying for us. My mother has been a “Missional Liver” all of her life!!! O how we need this kind of ‘old school’ commitment today!